A.I. Safety Is So Back + Mythos Mayhem with Nikesh Arora + Hot Mess Express

After several years of dismissing A.I. safety as doomer fear-mongering, parts of the Trump administration now seem ready to support regulation.


This week, between the president’s negotiations in China and a potential executive order, we discuss why the Trump administration seems to be changing its tune on A.I. safety. Then, Nikesh Arora, chief executive of Palo Alto Networks, the largest cybersecurity company in the world, gives us a firsthand account of where we stand in the race to secure the internet. And finally, we run through some of the wildest headlines of the week in a round of Hot Mess Express.


  • Nikesh Arora, chief executive and chairman of Palo Alto Networks.

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“Hard Fork” is hosted by Kevin Roose and Casey Newton and produced by Whitney Jones and Rachel Cohn. This episode was edited by Vjeran Pavic. Engineering by Chris Wood and original music by Dan Powell, Elisheba Ittoop and Rowan Niemisto. Fact-checking by Caitlin Love.

Special thanks to Paula Szuchman, Pui-Wing Tam and Dahlia Haddad.