The A.I. Trade Secrets War + Economists Say ‘We Must Act Now’ + HatGPT

“I don’t know if the public understands this, but these companies hate each other.”


This week, feuding between some of the biggest tech companies spilled into public view. We discuss Apple’s accusation that OpenAI tried to steal secrets about Apple’s hardware business, as well as share our reactions to OpenAI’s new model, Sol, and Anthropic’s decision to extend access to its model Fable.

Then, we unpack the loudest warning yet about A.I. and jobs. We talk with Erik Brynjolfsson, a Stanford economist, about a statement he helped organize that implores economists and A.I. researchers to “act now” to steer A.I. in a direction that complements humans.

And finally, we play a round of HatGPT.


  • Erik Brynjolfsson, senior fellow at the Stanford Institute for Human-Centered A.I. and director of the Stanford Digital Economy Lab.

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“Hard Fork” is hosted by Kevin Roose and Casey Newton and produced by Whitney Jones and Rachel Cohn. This episode was edited by Vjeran Pavic. Engineering by Katie McMurran and original music by Dan Powell, Elisheba Ittoop, Rowan Niemisto and Diane Wong. Fact-checking by Caitlin Love.

Special thanks to Paula Szuchman, Pui-Wing Tam, Brooke Minters and Dahlia Haddad.